[ddots-l] Re: introducing sonar x3

  • From: "Neville Peter" <neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:36:21 -0400

Very good advice man!

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mind in Christ Jesus. God bless you! 

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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Spamer
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:28 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: introducing sonar x3

The grass isn't always greener...and I think people literally get blinded by
thinking another solution is somehow better/cheaper or more powerful. Of
course, choice is good, the more choice the better, but it all comes down to
how serious you are about your music.

You can spend your life learning new solutions constantly, struggle with
inaccessibility and moan about the price of screenreaders until the cows
come home, bottom line is you choose the level at wich you want to work at
and how much you're going to pay.

CT, JSonar, HSC, Sonar and Jaws give an absolute amazing level of
accessibility to professional plugs, no doubt and if you want to get on,
this is the way you need to go.  reaper is becoming an option with NVDA, but
this route will keep you out of all available accessibility choices.  It
will be enough for a lot, but it won't deliver for many.  People crave the
next thing too much and are willing to step over what's currently there in
order to struggle.  People spend enormous amounts on a new PC/Mack solution,
then moan about the price of a plug or find things aren't quite as rosey as
they expected.

I'm currently not a CT user, but I'm excited to hear about the future for CT
and X3 and I will probably turn to that solution when it's available, nice
one DD.  If you're serious about your music, then invest in it, even though
it may hurt a little, try not to get bogged down with what if's and maybe's!
Cheers Steve.

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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jack Conti
Sent: 30 September 2013 12:18
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: introducing sonar x3

reaper is 50 dollars of close to it much cheaper.  cheaper than jaws
upgrades thats for sure.
At 10:21 AM 9/29/2013, you wrote:
>I no that garageband is not ment for pro, and it stil need a lot of 
>improvement and access, but I strongly consider taking alook at that 
>for my midi needs. Mac is not everything, but at least the cluttered 
>scripts are less or gone for the most part. But for anything more pro 
>than garageband I amafraid that's a problem. I stil don't understand 
>the object navigation in NVDA at all yet. Call me dum? And I find its 
>not always snappy enough like jaws can be. But I don't even no how much 
>longer I am willing to keep paying for upgrading jaws wile most new 
>releases don't bring the best features really to the user. I will get a 
>mac and have alook, maybe somewhere in the future we could have a 
>combination of solutions, like using some software on IOS with pro 
>gear, and where needed other stuff on windows/mac? I'm not sure how 
>reaper cater for midi stuff as I don't no the program. Is it cheaper 
>than sonar?
>
>On 29/09/2013, Jack Conti <jackconti@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > right looks like its gibson...
> > At 03:19 PM 9/28/2013, you wrote:
> >>Hey I didn't know about cakewalk's change in management/ownership? 
> >>Thought Roland was still holding that down? Anyways, I just wrote to 
> >>another list about that, they've provided  UI automation and other 
> >>"microsoft accessibility technologies for windows", so I think 
> >>that's as far as  they'll get. Much like they did with the CW access 
> >>window that both current jaws script solutions have used in 
> >>combination with control surface DLL's since sonar 2. I guess the 
> >>rest of the work has to be done by screen reader developers, or 
> >>should I say scripters. The issue is that the entire interface is 
> >>now different, so as we all know that means rewriting much of the 
> >>scripts (if not all) from scratch. So yea, we are at a bridge, 
> >>various things to look at and consider. Sonar is now 3 versions 
> >>behind for us in terms of access.
> >>
> >>You are right about reaper, I've heard of good results people are 
> >>having  on it, even with top-end AMD machines (which many would tell 
> >>you are no good for daws, though I might disagree). With about 500 
> >>bucks, somebody can get  a full DAW system running with reaper, and 
> >>with amazing results.
> >>
> >>On the Sonar front, did they provide a specific list of those "minor 
> >>improvements"? I looked but couldn't find 1.
> >>
> >>Regards, D!J!X!
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On
> >>Behalf Of Chris Smart
> >>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:02 PM
> >>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: introducing sonar x3
> >>
> >>as much as I love CakeTalking and use it daily to do work, I think 
> >>it's  time we take a look at Reaper as a community, and what it 
> >>would take to rewrite ReAccess. If Cakewalk wil not play ball and 
> >>haven't for some time, and are now part of Gibson Corp, perhaps it's 
> >>time to put our eggs collectively in another basket.
> >>
> >>The cost savings not to mention less computing power required, are 
> >>only  two great things in favor of Reaper.
> >>
> >>At 11:55 AM 9/28/2013, you wrote:
> >> ><http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/whats-new.aspx>http://www.
> >> >cakew alk.com/Products/SONAR/whats-new.aspx
> >>
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